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Thinking of pulling the trigger on TiAL 650 kit.......is the general consensus is that

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Old 12-01-2008, 12:37 PM
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Default imo only makes sense to do if you build the engine. Low boost #'s 21 psi were about 390 whp iirc

You can get close to that with ko4's and meth.
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Default YES!!! Please email me some logs.....I would like to see the potential of them

w/ a stock, unmoddified block
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If I built the motor, would the curve improve dramatically??
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Who put down 390whp w/ Tials?? Is that a realistic # I will see on a conservative tune??
Old 12-01-2008, 12:56 PM
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Default Has Prince or Mike seen any of Shawn's kit yet.....I would like them to vouch for it before I

purchased it, as no1 has this running and tuned yet...
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Default Would JUST RODS allow me to run a more aggressive tune and still not push the block

THAT much??
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Default was considering the same thing a while back ...

was gonna end up running $10,000 WITHOUT building the motor. not worth it
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Default Boost ramp up would be the same, but you'd be able to run a lot more boost

Assuming you kept the rev limits the same, you'd have a small power band but peak power should be significantly higher with a bigger turbo. So the loss of some low end power would be negated by the huge increase in power across the rest of the power band.

But while you're adding rods, most people do valve springs and retainers and then bump up the rev limit. This means your power band stays about the same, but is just moved up some. AND peak power throughout the power band is increased significantly. So ya... big turbos + rods + increased rev limit = ftw :-)
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that sounds alot more expensive than buidling the motor and doing RS6's or Tial's....
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Default Yes! Basically a built motor is just rods unless you go completely crazy.

But most people just have new rods, piston rings, and bearing installed.

The stock pistons are forged and the crank and block are pretty stought so you should be in good shape.


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