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Old 09-06-2001, 10:11 AM
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Default Watcha think: Criogenically treated brake rotors ...

In my infinite research for a brake upgrade for my 00 S4, I have come across some Criogenically treated brake rotors. Just when you think you've heard it all, they throw me another curve one.

<a href="http://www.frozenrotors.com/pricingbrembo.html">Criogenically treated brake rotors</a>

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What could that possibly do? it's not like they are going to stay frozen!
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I hope we have some chemical engineers in-da-house...they could answer that!
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Default The process permanently changes the structural properties of the material...

Cryogen, heat treating, etc.....all ways of strengthening (or weakening) a material depending on what the application calls for.
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Default Freezing the rotors hardens the metal, but, braking will produce HIGH temps!!! So I also wonder

whats the advantaged of a "frozen" rotor is over a rotor that has been cross-drilled or slotted?
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I know it works for razor blades - do not expect anything spectacular...
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Actually, you need a metallurgist 8^)
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Default you are correct sir...

The cryogenic process works in a similar was as a heat treating process. You want to reduce austenite content as well as relieve as much internal stress as much as possible. This typically makes for smaller grain size.
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Default Right, from what I remember it is actually the process of warming up from such a low temp that

actually changes the (I know I am going to get this wrong) molecular structure of the steel, making it more durable and stonger. One of the biggestt thing that gets cryo's is logging chain, documented proof that the process makes the chains last a lot longer (that is the very technical definition of the benefits)
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Oh man, you just made me think of phase diagrams. Blech!


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