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What is the difference in the APR programing on stage1 and stage2+ software?

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Old 07-16-2008, 08:27 AM
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Default What is the difference in the APR programing on stage1 and stage2+ software?

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Stage 2+ software ignores the secondary O2 sensors, so that you do not get a CEL (no pre-cats).
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Default So there's no difference between stage1 and stage2+ other than throwing a CEL

So there is no change in the actual tune itself?
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That's what I believe as well no power improvement. :-(
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I'm currently debating if it's worth the drive to Waterfest to have the car upgraded from my stage1 to stage2+. Since i would have to cancel my orginal engagement.
If the only difference is a rewrite to rid the CEL due to no cats, then it might not be worth the time. I've solved the cel light issue with a extended o2 bung.

My car is a 01.5 s4 with upgraded ic, labree downpipe & test pipe mated to a uuc vm3 exhaust. I was hoping the tuning for the stage2+ programing was a little more aggresive to take advantage of these mods.
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Tires on there way?
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I was originally APR 2+ I'm fairly sure it's just to eliminate CEL from O2. Call APR.
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Default I did.

they didn't really tell me much. Only that it compensates for the full exhaust, but didn't explain how.
So that's what I'm trying to find out, is it more boost, advance timing a more agressive tune over the stage1 etc.....
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Default Agreed. It just eliminates the CEL.

Originally APR DP's didn't relocated the o2's, even though they had main cats. So if you were using APR stage 1 software with their DP's, you'd get a CEL. So they made the 2+ software which just eliminated the CEL.
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Anyone know about ASP or GIAC REVO etc. 2+ Software? Is it more aggressive than basic software?


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