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Old 06-07-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default What the hell is going on (Logs) Bad O2 and Limp Mode?

After looking at the logs I am very confused. I first thought my car was in some kind of "Limp Mode" but no CEL.

Found this when I got back home.
1 Fault Found:

17965 - Charge Pressure Control: Positive Deviation

P1557 - 35-00 - -

Then I searched the archives and found this

"17965? Usually means actual boost is not meeting the expected (often a boost leak).
It sounds backwards, but from what I've seen, positive deviation = underboosting, negative deviation = overboosting."

Posted By DarinS4Turbo

Now I have 2 questions?
1. Is this correct does it look like I have a boost leak?
2. Do I have bad O2 sensors (4 of them)? (Both primary O2s were changed less than 1 year ago)


Conditions:

74 deg
IC temp was between 40-50 deg Celsius (104-122 F)

GIAC X only
Reset ECU and then drove around for 1 hour (~25 miles).



LOGS - Stock timing

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(0)/2-3-115.htm">Block 2-3-115</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(0)/2-31-115.htm">Block 2-31-115</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(0)/3-31-115.htm">Block 3-31-115</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(0)/20-21.htm">Block 20-211</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(0)/20-21-2.htm">Block 20-21 #2</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(0)/20-21-3.htm">Block 20-21 #3</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(0)/20-21-4.htm">Block 20-21 #4</a>




LOGS - +2.25 timing

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(2.25)/31-20-21.htm">Block 31-20-21</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(2.25)/31-20-21-2.htm">Block 31-20-21 #2</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(2.25)/31-20-21-3.htm">Block 31-20-21 #3</a>
<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(2.25)/115-20-21.htm">Block 115-20-21</a>

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/web-timing(2.25)/115-diffrent-gears.htm">Diffrent Gears 115</a>




Some times the boost goes past 5 psi but mostly it stays below. IF this is some kind of Limp Mode how come request is still high?


Bock 032 - after getting home.

<img src="http://homepage.mac.com/edyjun1/S4/32.jpg">

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Edy
Old 06-07-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default what about the o2's? whats the code? You are in going in limp mode for sure...

once you turn off the ignition your boost should go back to normal. However, once you get on it again it'll go back into limp as I can see from your logs. It wouldn't hurt to log 34 and 43 (EGT's) You might also want to check your n75 valve as I just worked on a car with a bad one and had the same symptoms as you.
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Default So i can go into Limp Mode with out CEL? (M)

1 Fault Found:

17965 - Charge Pressure Control: Positive Deviation

P1557 - 35-00 - -

only one found.

Are the O2s bad?

How do i get the Dealer to fix the O2 and N75 if they are bad.

Thank you for you response.

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I will log 34 and 43 when i can.
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Default if request is high, you *def* have a boost leak...

limp mode will show very low req.
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Seems like a *major* boost leak to me. Stop messing with lemmiwinks and find the problem.
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Default Well found the problem. I have a Bad TBB. (M)

Thank you all for helping me out. I will not be driving my S4 until I can the parts or get the dealer to fix it.

BUT do I still have bad O2 sensor(s) or not?
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Default I don't believe so from those logs just posted in this thread, but to be sure....

Do some more logging after fixing your leak.
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So O2 sensors are ok or do you mean u don't think its just the TBB?
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I meant 02 sensors seem okay. Log again when you fix the TBB or whatever is leaking.
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Ok thanx alot for the help.
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