What are your thoughts on DTM Kreuz 3pc wheels?
12-27-2004, 03:25 PM
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What are your thoughts on DTM Kreuz 3pc wheels?
Looking at either Kreuz 20 or 16 3pc in 19". Any opinions about build quality, weight, and fitment? Pictures would be nice too. Thanks.
12-27-2004, 04:55 PM
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I have the 18" 2 pc kreuz10s and my bro has the 19"3 pc kreuz10s, and I have a new set of
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/58652/img_0656.jpg"></center><p>black 19" Kreuz 5s 2 peice for sale for a lot cheaper than you'd get it from them for, if you are interested, but local sale in Los Angeles though.
Build quality is very good, very strong wheels, I have yet to get a bend. Same with my bro's 3pc, no bends. Weight is heavy lol, I am guessing somewhere around 24-26 lbs for 2 pc, not sure about the 3 peice. I prefer 2 peice over 3 peice for two reasons, the 3 peice is a bitch to keep clean with the rivets, and the inner hoops of the 2 peices are polished, unlike the 3 peice hoops. Fitment is going to be up to you. They are custom wheels so you tell them what kind of car you want and they will give you the proper offset. Don't forget to tell them if you want big brake fitment in the front. My Kreuz 5s are made custom for B5 S4s, 35mm offset in front with a 1 inch lip, so it can clear big brake kits if someone was to upgrade in the future, and the rears are 28mm, with a 2 inch lip. Only thing I don't like about the wheels are DTM's customer service, the wheels will take longer than quoted, and I don't want to open a can of worms. As for the Kreuz 20s, I think they are too bling bling for B5 S4s, and they drop in price a lot since it's not the most liked syle they make. The most popular are the Kreuz 10s, 7s, and 5s. I've seen a couple Kreuz 20s on some B6's and still didn't like them. There are no dtm Kreuz 16s that I know of so I cant help you there. You can see pics of both the Kreuz 10s in 2 pc and 3pc in my pic poster. Hope that helps.
Build quality is very good, very strong wheels, I have yet to get a bend. Same with my bro's 3pc, no bends. Weight is heavy lol, I am guessing somewhere around 24-26 lbs for 2 pc, not sure about the 3 peice. I prefer 2 peice over 3 peice for two reasons, the 3 peice is a bitch to keep clean with the rivets, and the inner hoops of the 2 peices are polished, unlike the 3 peice hoops. Fitment is going to be up to you. They are custom wheels so you tell them what kind of car you want and they will give you the proper offset. Don't forget to tell them if you want big brake fitment in the front. My Kreuz 5s are made custom for B5 S4s, 35mm offset in front with a 1 inch lip, so it can clear big brake kits if someone was to upgrade in the future, and the rears are 28mm, with a 2 inch lip. Only thing I don't like about the wheels are DTM's customer service, the wheels will take longer than quoted, and I don't want to open a can of worms. As for the Kreuz 20s, I think they are too bling bling for B5 S4s, and they drop in price a lot since it's not the most liked syle they make. The most popular are the Kreuz 10s, 7s, and 5s. I've seen a couple Kreuz 20s on some B6's and still didn't like them. There are no dtm Kreuz 16s that I know of so I cant help you there. You can see pics of both the Kreuz 10s in 2 pc and 3pc in my pic poster. Hope that helps.
12-27-2004, 05:01 PM
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Kreuz 5's 2 pc
<center><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/SuperbSantorings/Picture_036.jpg"></center><p>These are the ones I have for sale locally.<ul><li><a href="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/SuperbSantorings/Picture_033.jpg">Another pic.</a></li></ul>
12-27-2004, 05:04 PM
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i've never noticed any difference in time spent cleaning ...
riveted wheels vs. non-riveted wheels (and i've had many of both). much more important is the number of spokes. for instance, i can clean the 545r's much more quickly than the rs4's.
12-27-2004, 05:11 PM
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Maybe you don't make as much brake dust.
But it takes 3 times longer to clean the 3 peice than it does my 2 peice wheels. Think about it, getting inbetween each rivet to clean out dust and dirt vs one or two clean swipes around the edge of the face. Yes the # spokes also matter, but I'm talking about the same wheel just in 2pc vs 3pc.
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12-27-2004, 05:50 PM
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there is no work in cleaning the rivets ...
one swipe with the right tool. i'd suggest the griot's garage tire mitt -- works great, gets inside the rivets no problem.
i've owned many, many, many types of rims. this really is a non-issue.
i've owned many, many, many types of rims. this really is a non-issue.
12-27-2004, 06:02 PM
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Re: I have the 18" 2 pc kreuz10s and my bro has the 19"3 pc kreuz10s, and I have a new set of
I thought DTM Kreuz were fairly light, but not as light as Volk or Dronell. What did you mean by the inner hoop in the 2pc being polished unlike 3pc? I'm new to the 3pc rim world, sorry. I guess it's a matter of preference in choosing the style of the Kreuz 20 and 16. If Dronell were still around I'd buy those. Thanks for your help.
12-27-2004, 06:19 PM
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DTM Kreuz 20 or 16 3pc?
<center><img src="http://www.dtmautohaus.com/img/kreuz20/203.jpg"></center><p>Sorry, don't know how to add second picture.<ul><li><a href="http://www.dtmautohaus.com/img/kreuz16/163.jpg">http://www.dtmautohaus.com/img/kreuz16/163.jpg</a</li></ul>