C&D Lightning Lap 2013
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Isn't the M5 the only other 4-door sedan that is faster than the S6? And at a cost of $19,000, or over $4,000 per second faster. I assume that once the tuners finish their work on the S6, that we would be able to improve our times at a cost of less than $4,000 per second.
I agree that I have no intention of ever taking my S6 (now on a truck from the Port of Houston)to a track.
I presently have the e39 version of the M5. The ride is hard around town as mentioned in this thread. I look forward to being able to have a cushy ride when I'm around town or cruising on 4 cylinders on the freeway and a dynamic ride when I'm on a two-lane country road.
I agree that I have no intention of ever taking my S6 (now on a truck from the Port of Houston)to a track.
I presently have the e39 version of the M5. The ride is hard around town as mentioned in this thread. I look forward to being able to have a cushy ride when I'm around town or cruising on 4 cylinders on the freeway and a dynamic ride when I'm on a two-lane country road.
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I recall back then C&D complained about the sport diffs tendency to oversteer.
The s6 is still the next logical step for me for the other reasons.
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My issue arrived today. Here is the text, verbatim, from the article:
I think the last sentence says it all.
Audi S6 - 3:09.8
Here is cruel proof of what a track can do to an otherwise estimable sports sedan. Fresh out of the box, the new S6 bested the Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG and the BMW M5 in a comparison test. Then we sent this example, as white as coconut meat and freshly shod with new tires, out on VIR's evil asphalt. The result was a wince-inducing horror show of understeer and lap times that didn't come close to the M5's.
Because all-wheel-drivers tend to understeer, a certain iron fist is often required to hustle them around a track. It's best to storm up to a corner, hit the brakes hard, jump off the brakes abruptly to tease the car into rotating, and then stomp on the gas in the hope it'll provoke the rear axle to do something useful. But the Audi, even fitted with a torque-vectoring rear differential, proved immune to our cattle-prodding. We also tried to be gentle, but the S6 just wouldn't bite. It took achingly long to get through the slower turns as the front tires squealed their arias of woe. And at 4,369 pounds, the S6 could only make it to 136 mph on the straight.
Once straightened out, the twin-turbo V-8 quickly boiled up its steam and the S6 left a thrilling, big-bore sound in its wake. The dual-clutch transmission makes up in lightning shifts and downshifting throttle blips what the rest of the chassis lacks in track aptitude. In our estimation, however, the Audi leaves the event as it entered - as the market's best big, fast, luxury car - even if it's a machine that can't be what it wasn't intended to be.
Here is cruel proof of what a track can do to an otherwise estimable sports sedan. Fresh out of the box, the new S6 bested the Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG and the BMW M5 in a comparison test. Then we sent this example, as white as coconut meat and freshly shod with new tires, out on VIR's evil asphalt. The result was a wince-inducing horror show of understeer and lap times that didn't come close to the M5's.
Because all-wheel-drivers tend to understeer, a certain iron fist is often required to hustle them around a track. It's best to storm up to a corner, hit the brakes hard, jump off the brakes abruptly to tease the car into rotating, and then stomp on the gas in the hope it'll provoke the rear axle to do something useful. But the Audi, even fitted with a torque-vectoring rear differential, proved immune to our cattle-prodding. We also tried to be gentle, but the S6 just wouldn't bite. It took achingly long to get through the slower turns as the front tires squealed their arias of woe. And at 4,369 pounds, the S6 could only make it to 136 mph on the straight.
Once straightened out, the twin-turbo V-8 quickly boiled up its steam and the S6 left a thrilling, big-bore sound in its wake. The dual-clutch transmission makes up in lightning shifts and downshifting throttle blips what the rest of the chassis lacks in track aptitude. In our estimation, however, the Audi leaves the event as it entered - as the market's best big, fast, luxury car - even if it's a machine that can't be what it wasn't intended to be.
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What I tell folks is that the S6 is a luxury car that happens to be really fast and handles well. As long as you keep this mindset you will never be disappointed.
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The S6's time was the same as that of the 2006 Corvette with Z51 performance package. That's pretty impressive in my book.
Also don't forget that the M5 rides on Michelin Pilot Super Sports (same tires that come on the Ferrari 458). What does the S6 have? ContiSportContact or Pirelli P Zero? I've had both tires and generally wasn't impressed with them. Michelin PS2 and now Hankook Ventus V12 evo were both definitely better. The article said the S6 got a fresh set of tires - how fresh? Had they been heat cycled yet? Scrubbed in to clean off the mold release compound?
Also don't forget that the M5 rides on Michelin Pilot Super Sports (same tires that come on the Ferrari 458). What does the S6 have? ContiSportContact or Pirelli P Zero? I've had both tires and generally wasn't impressed with them. Michelin PS2 and now Hankook Ventus V12 evo were both definitely better. The article said the S6 got a fresh set of tires - how fresh? Had they been heat cycled yet? Scrubbed in to clean off the mold release compound?
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