Advantages/Disadvantages of a aftermarked sway bar....I'm kinda lost on this one....thx
12-05-2004, 06:11 PM
#2
Some info on anti-roll bars....
<center><img src="http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbibles/images/antiroll_explanation.jpg"></center><p>Anti-roll Bars (Sway Bars/Stabilizers)
No, these aren't the things that are bolted inside the car in case you turn it over - those are rollover cages. Anti-roll bars do precisely what their name implies - they combat the roll of a car on it's suspension as it corners. They're also known as sway-bars or anti-sway-bars. Almost all cars have them fitted as standard, and if you're a boy-racer, all have scope for improvement. From the factory they are biased towards ride comfort. Stiffer aftermarket items will increase the roadholding but you'll get reduced comfort because of it. It's a catch-22 situation. Fiddling with your roll stiffness distribution can make a car uncomfortable to ride in and extremely hard to handle if you get it wrong. The anti-roll bar is usually connected to the front, lower edge of the bottom suspension joint. It passes through two pivot points under the chassis, usually on the subframe and is attached to the same point on the opposite suspension setup. Effectively, it joins the bottom of the suspension parts together. When you head into a corner, the car begins to roll out of the corner. For example, if you're cornering to the left, the car body rolls to the right. In doing this, it's compressing the suspension on the right hand side. With a good anti-roll bar, as the lower part of the suspension moves upward relative to the car chassis, it transfers some of that movement to the same component on the other side. In effect, it tries to lift the left suspension component by the same amount. Because this isn't physically possible, the left suspension effectively becomes a fixed point and the anti-roll bar twists along its length because the other end is effectively anchored in place. It's this twisting that provides the resistance to the suspension movement.<ul><li><a href="http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbibles/index.html?menu.html&suspension_bible.html">Fr om the suspension bible....</a></li></ul>
No, these aren't the things that are bolted inside the car in case you turn it over - those are rollover cages. Anti-roll bars do precisely what their name implies - they combat the roll of a car on it's suspension as it corners. They're also known as sway-bars or anti-sway-bars. Almost all cars have them fitted as standard, and if you're a boy-racer, all have scope for improvement. From the factory they are biased towards ride comfort. Stiffer aftermarket items will increase the roadholding but you'll get reduced comfort because of it. It's a catch-22 situation. Fiddling with your roll stiffness distribution can make a car uncomfortable to ride in and extremely hard to handle if you get it wrong. The anti-roll bar is usually connected to the front, lower edge of the bottom suspension joint. It passes through two pivot points under the chassis, usually on the subframe and is attached to the same point on the opposite suspension setup. Effectively, it joins the bottom of the suspension parts together. When you head into a corner, the car begins to roll out of the corner. For example, if you're cornering to the left, the car body rolls to the right. In doing this, it's compressing the suspension on the right hand side. With a good anti-roll bar, as the lower part of the suspension moves upward relative to the car chassis, it transfers some of that movement to the same component on the other side. In effect, it tries to lift the left suspension component by the same amount. Because this isn't physically possible, the left suspension effectively becomes a fixed point and the anti-roll bar twists along its length because the other end is effectively anchored in place. It's this twisting that provides the resistance to the suspension movement.<ul><li><a href="http://www.chris-longhurst.com/carbibles/index.html?menu.html&suspension_bible.html">Fr om the suspension bible....</a></li></ul>
12-05-2004, 06:27 PM
#3
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i installed a rear neuspeed sway bar a few months ago...
i don't sense any disadvantages at all. the car feels much tauter and the understeer is vanished.
it's a great mod and it definitely changes the feel of the car.
i got the 19mm one.
it's a great mod and it definitely changes the feel of the car.
i got the 19mm one.
12-05-2004, 06:58 PM
#5
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nope, the bushings needed came in the box
hurry up and install it already! :P
i had a good amount of help from a fellow TTer, the install does take 2 or 3 hours...cos you gotta unscrew and lower the exhaust system and remove the cover behind the exhaust...
but it's well worth it...as far as i'm concerned.
i had a good amount of help from a fellow TTer, the install does take 2 or 3 hours...cos you gotta unscrew and lower the exhaust system and remove the cover behind the exhaust...
but it's well worth it...as far as i'm concerned.
12-05-2004, 08:10 PM
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Nokian WRs! Bring on Winter!
Then I gotta stop this modding madness for a while...
Nokian WRs! Bring on Winter!
Then I gotta stop this modding madness for a while...
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12-06-2004, 06:14 AM
#10
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obviously you haven't installed it correctly ;)
it can't possibly take 25 minutes. impossible!!
Kurt said it took him just as long as mine took when he did his.
Mark, in 25 minutes, i can see you GLUING the sway bar onto the car, but not installing it :P
Kurt said it took him just as long as mine took when he did his.
Mark, in 25 minutes, i can see you GLUING the sway bar onto the car, but not installing it :P