Can someone give me short discription of transmission problems
06-01-2000, 02:19 PM
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Can someone give me short discription of transmission problems
I am just receiving my 2000 180FWD TT next week, its currently in San Diego awaiting the port authority to look at the emissions labeling. I noticed some threads on transmission problem, is this a major, concern what can be done. I believe this has been posted before but I cannot seem to located it. Thank you in advance for any help you many give me.
06-01-2000, 03:50 PM
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Re: Can someone give me short discription of transmission problems
Further documentation of FWD tranny problems...
Here's the most up to date list of FWD TT transmission problems. There was a period of time where I was not documenting the problem, so I believe that I could now add a number of additional names to this list.
Don't compare these numbers to the total number of TTs sold, but rather to TT.Org forum participants. Another reason for this is that some here seem to think that my tranny problem was just isolated bad luck. I think that it is something more. Also, be aware that our sister site, VW Vortex, has also documented about 50 cases of the identical 2nd gear synchro grinding problem. This FWD tranny is also used in other VW products. Anyway, here's a partial documentation of some of these problems.
1. MattC 6-25-99. 2nd gear synchro problems. Transmission replaced.
2. Brad Willis 7-24-99. 2nd gear synchro problems. Transmission replaced.
3. Brad Willis 8-7-99. 2nd gear synchro AGAIN. Appears transmission will have to be replaced for a second time.
4. Kurt 6-25-99. 2nd gear synchro problem. Transmission replaced.
5. Sai 6-25-99. Said that his dealer replaced the tranny of a non forum member.
6. Sai 7-26-99. He is now experiencing transmission problems. Tranny "clanks" when shifting into 2nd gear (probable 2nd gear syncro problem).
7. Hal 6-15-99. Problems getting transmission into 2 gears.
8. Jay 6-14-99. 1st and 2nd gear problems requiring multiple attempts to engage transmission.
9. Steve Mikula Service Manager of Don McGill Audi. 2 non-forum member TTs in at the same time getting transmission replaced.
10. TToby 6-25-99. Said his friend is an Audi mechanic who had already replaced "several" TT transmissions. TToby then searched local dealerships for a TT demo to drive. He found one, but the dealer said., "you can sit in it, but that's it, because the transmission's broken."
11. DaveO 6-15-99. Lost 3rd gear. New transmission
12. Jeffrey Sessler 6-15-99. Reported difficulty engaging 1st gear from a dead stop.
13. BillK 7-25-99. 2nd gear synchro grinding (I think his transmission was replaced later).
14. Corto 7-26-99. 2nd gear synchro grinding.
15. Crisp 7-25-99. 2nd gear synchro grinding.
16. BLB 6-15-99. Reported notchiness.
17. Kurt Alexander 6-14-99. New transmission.
18. EnVenice 7-24-99. Rented a TT at a rental agency. They said that it was in the shop for the 1st month getting the transmission replaced.
19. Ari Jay Comet 8-8-99. Transmission failing due to 2nd gear synchro problems.
20. MNE 8-7-99. Transmission failing. Dealer says replacement is inevitable.
21. Jorg Butzbach recent German posting. Transmission replaced.
22. Markus Hirsch recent German posting. Transmission replaced.
23. Jorg Schoppmeyer recent German posting. Transmission replaced.
24. DonK. Transmission replaced.
25. John Szobocsan. Transmission failing.
26. Robby K. Transmission grinding (synchros).
27. Dave W. 2nd gear synchro grinding. Transmission replaced.
28. Fred Russo. 2nd gear synchros grinding.
29. Cara from SoCal TT Club. 2nd gear synchros grinding.
30. John Salerno. 2nd gear synchro grinding (twice). Sold his TT out of dissatisfaction.
31. Rob W. Carroll. 2nd gear synchros grinding.
32. Peter Ryckaert (former Audi-TT.Org Associate Editor). Reports 2nd gear synchros grinding. Traded his TT for an S4.
33. Peter in 90210. Experiencing 2nd gear transmission grinding. Sold his TT and bought a Mercedes 320 CLK Cab.
34. Dave Olinger. 2nd gear synchro grinding.
35. Bill Lindsay. Reported 2nd gear synchro grinding.
36. Lorne Goldman. 2nd gear synchro grinding.
37. Ryecatcher. Reported 2nd gear synchro grind.
38. John Korellis. Infamous 2nd gear synchro grind. Transmission replaced.
39. Charles Palm. Periodic 2nd gear synchro grind. Reported via e-mail 1-8-00.
40. Brad Willis. 3rd transmission has failed. The usual 2nd gear synchro problems.
41. ChrisC. 2-23-00. Reported transmission "crunch" when shifting.
42. OmarTT. 2-25-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind.
43. TT Tom. 2-27-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind.
44. John Frye. 2-27-00. Wrote that his friend test drove a TT which "crunched" when shifting into 2nd gear.
45. Tony Martino. 3-12-00. Sent me an e-mail reporting 2nd gear "grinding and clunking".
46. Yannis. 3-22-00. Replaced transmission 6 months ago due to grinding transmission.
47. jfchristie. 3-27-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind.
48. ttkevinc. 3-27-00. Reports 2nd gear synhcro grind.
49. ScouTT. 3-27-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind.
50. tlcu@aol.com. 12-22-99. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind (via email).
51. RobertNY. 4-12-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding (Wed night chat).
52. Steve Z. 4-28-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding (via e-mail). Tranny replaced.
53. STTUKA. 5-1-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding.
54. Guido. 5-21-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding (German TT newsgroup).
55. January Henning. 5-21-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding (German TT newsgroup).
56. Dirk. 5-22-00. Reports "same" transmission problems as January (German TT newsgroup).
57. ALAN VONDERHAAR 11-27-99. The Cincinnati Enquirer TT article. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding.
58. TX. Carvoice.Com 5-23-00. Transmission replaced due to synchro grinding.
59. Larry TT. 5-24-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind test driving friend's car. Friend says it is common.
60. Chiu. 5-25-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding.
61. Bobby M. 5-25-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding.
62. Uncle Frank. 5-27-00. Reports 2nd gear syncho grinding, followed by failure of 2nd and 4th gears.<p><img src="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds/1.jpg" border="0">
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Here's the most up to date list of FWD TT transmission problems. There was a period of time where I was not documenting the problem, so I believe that I could now add a number of additional names to this list.
Don't compare these numbers to the total number of TTs sold, but rather to TT.Org forum participants. Another reason for this is that some here seem to think that my tranny problem was just isolated bad luck. I think that it is something more. Also, be aware that our sister site, VW Vortex, has also documented about 50 cases of the identical 2nd gear synchro grinding problem. This FWD tranny is also used in other VW products. Anyway, here's a partial documentation of some of these problems.
1. MattC 6-25-99. 2nd gear synchro problems. Transmission replaced.
2. Brad Willis 7-24-99. 2nd gear synchro problems. Transmission replaced.
3. Brad Willis 8-7-99. 2nd gear synchro AGAIN. Appears transmission will have to be replaced for a second time.
4. Kurt 6-25-99. 2nd gear synchro problem. Transmission replaced.
5. Sai 6-25-99. Said that his dealer replaced the tranny of a non forum member.
6. Sai 7-26-99. He is now experiencing transmission problems. Tranny "clanks" when shifting into 2nd gear (probable 2nd gear syncro problem).
7. Hal 6-15-99. Problems getting transmission into 2 gears.
8. Jay 6-14-99. 1st and 2nd gear problems requiring multiple attempts to engage transmission.
9. Steve Mikula Service Manager of Don McGill Audi. 2 non-forum member TTs in at the same time getting transmission replaced.
10. TToby 6-25-99. Said his friend is an Audi mechanic who had already replaced "several" TT transmissions. TToby then searched local dealerships for a TT demo to drive. He found one, but the dealer said., "you can sit in it, but that's it, because the transmission's broken."
11. DaveO 6-15-99. Lost 3rd gear. New transmission
12. Jeffrey Sessler 6-15-99. Reported difficulty engaging 1st gear from a dead stop.
13. BillK 7-25-99. 2nd gear synchro grinding (I think his transmission was replaced later).
14. Corto 7-26-99. 2nd gear synchro grinding.
15. Crisp 7-25-99. 2nd gear synchro grinding.
16. BLB 6-15-99. Reported notchiness.
17. Kurt Alexander 6-14-99. New transmission.
18. EnVenice 7-24-99. Rented a TT at a rental agency. They said that it was in the shop for the 1st month getting the transmission replaced.
19. Ari Jay Comet 8-8-99. Transmission failing due to 2nd gear synchro problems.
20. MNE 8-7-99. Transmission failing. Dealer says replacement is inevitable.
21. Jorg Butzbach recent German posting. Transmission replaced.
22. Markus Hirsch recent German posting. Transmission replaced.
23. Jorg Schoppmeyer recent German posting. Transmission replaced.
24. DonK. Transmission replaced.
25. John Szobocsan. Transmission failing.
26. Robby K. Transmission grinding (synchros).
27. Dave W. 2nd gear synchro grinding. Transmission replaced.
28. Fred Russo. 2nd gear synchros grinding.
29. Cara from SoCal TT Club. 2nd gear synchros grinding.
30. John Salerno. 2nd gear synchro grinding (twice). Sold his TT out of dissatisfaction.
31. Rob W. Carroll. 2nd gear synchros grinding.
32. Peter Ryckaert (former Audi-TT.Org Associate Editor). Reports 2nd gear synchros grinding. Traded his TT for an S4.
33. Peter in 90210. Experiencing 2nd gear transmission grinding. Sold his TT and bought a Mercedes 320 CLK Cab.
34. Dave Olinger. 2nd gear synchro grinding.
35. Bill Lindsay. Reported 2nd gear synchro grinding.
36. Lorne Goldman. 2nd gear synchro grinding.
37. Ryecatcher. Reported 2nd gear synchro grind.
38. John Korellis. Infamous 2nd gear synchro grind. Transmission replaced.
39. Charles Palm. Periodic 2nd gear synchro grind. Reported via e-mail 1-8-00.
40. Brad Willis. 3rd transmission has failed. The usual 2nd gear synchro problems.
41. ChrisC. 2-23-00. Reported transmission "crunch" when shifting.
42. OmarTT. 2-25-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind.
43. TT Tom. 2-27-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind.
44. John Frye. 2-27-00. Wrote that his friend test drove a TT which "crunched" when shifting into 2nd gear.
45. Tony Martino. 3-12-00. Sent me an e-mail reporting 2nd gear "grinding and clunking".
46. Yannis. 3-22-00. Replaced transmission 6 months ago due to grinding transmission.
47. jfchristie. 3-27-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind.
48. ttkevinc. 3-27-00. Reports 2nd gear synhcro grind.
49. ScouTT. 3-27-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind.
50. tlcu@aol.com. 12-22-99. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind (via email).
51. RobertNY. 4-12-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding (Wed night chat).
52. Steve Z. 4-28-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding (via e-mail). Tranny replaced.
53. STTUKA. 5-1-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding.
54. Guido. 5-21-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding (German TT newsgroup).
55. January Henning. 5-21-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding (German TT newsgroup).
56. Dirk. 5-22-00. Reports "same" transmission problems as January (German TT newsgroup).
57. ALAN VONDERHAAR 11-27-99. The Cincinnati Enquirer TT article. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding.
58. TX. Carvoice.Com 5-23-00. Transmission replaced due to synchro grinding.
59. Larry TT. 5-24-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grind test driving friend's car. Friend says it is common.
60. Chiu. 5-25-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding.
61. Bobby M. 5-25-00. Reports 2nd gear synchro grinding.
62. Uncle Frank. 5-27-00. Reports 2nd gear syncho grinding, followed by failure of 2nd and 4th gears.<p><img src="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds/1.jpg" border="0">
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06-01-2000, 04:53 PM
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Way to scare the new guy! (or gal, whichever the case may be). BIG :)
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06-01-2000, 06:41 PM
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Re: Can someone give me short discription of transmission problems
Is this problem limited to 5 spd FWD? Has it been reported in the Quattro 180 5 spd?
Are there any similar complaints in the new 6 spd?
Thanks for your input.
Are there any similar complaints in the new 6 spd?
Thanks for your input.
06-01-2000, 06:55 PM
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FWD only. Not everyone has this, but many have. The Q was made for the TT, FWD is a VW tranny.
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06-01-2000, 07:31 PM
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Thanks for your response, Brad.....more....
Although I am very close to my waiting list spot
for a TTQ225 coupe or TTRQ, I wonder if it might be wise to wait for the 2002 model year for 'bug control'.
I have driven the 180 TTR and liked it, but here in Oregon topless time is limited.
The A pillar, and dashboard shook quite violently during my very thorough test drive on some of the 'washboard' desert blacktop.
I really want a White Pearlescent TT and hope for
2002 release of this color.
Just sold my pearl '98 A4 2.8Q
Ed Kruszewski THe Dalles, OR
for a TTQ225 coupe or TTRQ, I wonder if it might be wise to wait for the 2002 model year for 'bug control'.
I have driven the 180 TTR and liked it, but here in Oregon topless time is limited.
The A pillar, and dashboard shook quite violently during my very thorough test drive on some of the 'washboard' desert blacktop.
I really want a White Pearlescent TT and hope for
2002 release of this color.
Just sold my pearl '98 A4 2.8Q
Ed Kruszewski THe Dalles, OR
06-02-2000, 04:56 AM
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While some have experienced tranny problems, it is not as wide spread as some make it out to be.
It is my belief that there has been a lot of hypochondria going around with regards to the fwd tranny. (Lyme disease? Yeah, I have those symptons!)
-Brent
9,000 miles and no tranny problems.
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06-02-2000, 05:56 AM
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Much of the input has been spectulation, here is my take...
As an 180 FWD owner of 10 months and 5,000 miles. I have not experienced any grinding or "notchyness" in my tranny. Some other owners obviously had problems, which has been well and consistently documented in this forum. I don't believe it is an inherent design flaw, but rather an inventory/quality assurance issue, that was most prominent at the early stages of production in Gyor, Hungry. It would be interesting to see if the problem continues to exist for the FWD's with higher vin numbers.
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Let me add my name to the list...
So far the grinding is rare - only on rapid upshifts at 6K+ rpm, and then not all the time. Since I've been chipped, I rarely rev it there now. The dealer knows of the problem (they duplicated it on a test drive). It's not a frequent enough problem to warrent replacing the transmission yet, but I realize it might be inevitable. I have an extended warrenty, so I'll wait and see. I have an early production TT (built 4/99). I otherwise like the tranny and love the car...
Eric Kuhns<p>TT 180 - APR'd
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06-02-2000, 06:58 AM
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With all respect to tks, Brett, et al...
This problem has occurred over and over and over. Let's face the facts folks, this isn't hypocondria or a coincidence, and it shocks me that this isn't quite obvious.
I think that there can be a tendency to feel that if you own a FWD and haven't experienced the problem firsthand, then it must not exist. Why are all of these folks owning both VWs and FWD TTs having a virtually identical problem? Mass hysteria? Doubtful, in my view.
Who's to say that the problems are early production and now resolved? We're still getting new reports in almost every time the topic is discussed, including today. And for those who might challenge this, what possible benefit is there for you? If you are a FWD owner, and there even might be a problem, wouldn't you like some heat put on VW/Audi so that they resolve the problem? Or do you want to go through the crap and multiple transmission replacements, and denial by Audi that I went through for months on end?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there IS a problem here folks. I don't own a FWD anymore, but I'm going to continue to aggressively address this situation for you folks who own these lousy FWD transmissions, and hopefully there will be some future solution.
Here's a link to the VW survey regarding 2nd gear synchro grinding in the identical tranny, but in VW products:<p><img src="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds/1.jpg" border="0">
<B>Brad Willis</B>
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<A HREF="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds">SoCal Audi TT Club</A><ul><li><a href="http://www.vwvortexforums.com/vwbb/Forum4/HTML/006117.html">VW Vortex tranny problem survey</a></li></ul>
I think that there can be a tendency to feel that if you own a FWD and haven't experienced the problem firsthand, then it must not exist. Why are all of these folks owning both VWs and FWD TTs having a virtually identical problem? Mass hysteria? Doubtful, in my view.
Who's to say that the problems are early production and now resolved? We're still getting new reports in almost every time the topic is discussed, including today. And for those who might challenge this, what possible benefit is there for you? If you are a FWD owner, and there even might be a problem, wouldn't you like some heat put on VW/Audi so that they resolve the problem? Or do you want to go through the crap and multiple transmission replacements, and denial by Audi that I went through for months on end?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there IS a problem here folks. I don't own a FWD anymore, but I'm going to continue to aggressively address this situation for you folks who own these lousy FWD transmissions, and hopefully there will be some future solution.
Here's a link to the VW survey regarding 2nd gear synchro grinding in the identical tranny, but in VW products:<p><img src="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds/1.jpg" border="0">
<B>Brad Willis</B>
<FONT COLOR="#FF6600">2001 225q TT Roadster
No Borla
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<A HREF="http://home.san.rr.com/winefinds">SoCal Audi TT Club</A><ul><li><a href="http://www.vwvortexforums.com/vwbb/Forum4/HTML/006117.html">VW Vortex tranny problem survey</a></li></ul>