In keeping with the funky alignment theme - i've had the car in 3 times now
03-21-2008, 07:43 AM
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Hey! So I talked to the tech this am and he said........
he didn't touch camber front or rear! The print out is also in degrees AND minutes! Not just degrees so i'm not comparing apples to apples. JEEZ - talk about frustrating.
What I thought was 1.05 degrees is actually 1 degree .05 minutes. He said that was about 1.1 degrees.
I looked at the car this am and theres still room for more camber up front and the rear might be at 1.8 degrees - like the previous days printout. It's reported at 1 degree and 51 minutes on the current printout, but was reported as -1.8 degrees on the previous printout.
I hate this!
What I thought was 1.05 degrees is actually 1 degree .05 minutes. He said that was about 1.1 degrees.
I looked at the car this am and theres still room for more camber up front and the rear might be at 1.8 degrees - like the previous days printout. It's reported at 1 degree and 51 minutes on the current printout, but was reported as -1.8 degrees on the previous printout.
I hate this!
03-21-2008, 09:19 AM
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Here's the Degrees to inches conversion chart...>>
<ul><li><a href="http://www.smartracingproducts.com/pdfdocs/toeangle_conversion.pdf">http://www.smartracingproducts.com/pdfdocs/toeangle_conversion.pdf</a</li></ul>
03-21-2008, 11:42 AM
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Maybe check with Scott in Steven's Creek. Just found out he works there yesterday...
and he knows how to align a car to behave in a particular manner or just bring it up to spec. His handle is alwaysracin in the Norcal forum. He races a Miata and has been raking in several trophies now. He also owns an Audi.
03-21-2008, 12:41 PM
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You need a friend who owns a tire shop -->
with an alignment rack like me and just DIY. Sorry couldn't resist. I do buy the shop guys pizza for lunch the next day though. Alignment is not that bad but does take time esp. if you move the subframe. I've spent several 2 hour sessions getting it dialed in to what I want. On lowered cars like ours, it's really hard to get a lot of neg camber up front unless you start to change the length of the lower control arms. Perhaps we need a KMAC for the front bushing on the lower control arm? Anyone care to figure that out?
The issue that I have found is that the instruments although precise are not very accurate (i.e. they can not repeat measurement values). So I don't try for really tight numbers because they will change by simply rolling the car off the rack and back on.
I go for these...
camber: +/- 0.1 degrees side to side
toe: +/- 0.05 degrees side to side
The issue that I have found is that the instruments although precise are not very accurate (i.e. they can not repeat measurement values). So I don't try for really tight numbers because they will change by simply rolling the car off the rack and back on.
I go for these...
camber: +/- 0.1 degrees side to side
toe: +/- 0.05 degrees side to side
03-21-2008, 01:11 PM
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Yeah - I got spoiled by Custom Alignment who did mine a couple years ago they are precise
and spend the time to do it right. Too bad the guy who did the alignments left and opened a place in Gilroy CA. That's a 4 hour round trip without traffic - up to 7 with :-(
