Life without ESP - a whole new driving experience
09-19-2002, 06:02 PM
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Life without ESP - a whole new driving experience
Wow, I have had my eyes opened ! I have been playing with turning off the ESP and I cannot believe how much quicker I can take the corners. I didn't know I was being slowed down so much.
I am going to have some real fun re-learning the limits of my car ! The handling is MUCH more predictable for my driving style.
I am going to have some real fun re-learning the limits of my car ! The handling is MUCH more predictable for my driving style.
09-19-2002, 06:38 PM
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FWIW the pro drivers at the Panoz school say they are faster with it on...
ESP will adjust for over and under steer and a lot faster then any driver can. Unless you are very experienced as a driver (i.e., scca or auto-x) be careful. :-)
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Disclaimer: only try in safe driving areas - never attempt this while talking on the cell phone and
applying make-up in the vanity mirror (I have actually passed a driver doing exactly that - scared the hell out of me knowing I was behind this driver).
There are a couple of 90* corners on the way to work with large run-off areas... just incase I get a little too crazy. I usually get a clear road (no cars) 1-2 a week, and usually am in the mood to have fun at least 1 of those times...
Up until turning off the ESP, I have felt the limits of the car (I guess the car taking over) at around 60 km/h in the corner. With the ESP off, I have progressively increased the speed in the corner. I have been able to take the corner at the road speed limit of 80 km/h (I am not speeding !) with a controlled sliding. It feels a much more controlled and natural drive to me than with the ESP on...
There are a couple of 90* corners on the way to work with large run-off areas... just incase I get a little too crazy. I usually get a clear road (no cars) 1-2 a week, and usually am in the mood to have fun at least 1 of those times...
Up until turning off the ESP, I have felt the limits of the car (I guess the car taking over) at around 60 km/h in the corner. With the ESP off, I have progressively increased the speed in the corner. I have been able to take the corner at the road speed limit of 80 km/h (I am not speeding !) with a controlled sliding. It feels a much more controlled and natural drive to me than with the ESP on...
09-19-2002, 06:48 PM
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LOL, just so you understand that smooth = fast...
hanging the *** out or plowing through a turn in a four wheel drift will *feel* fast but most prob will time slower.
(yes it is fun ;-)
(yes it is fun ;-)
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09-19-2002, 06:56 PM
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Ya I know, I used to work at Mosport Racetrack when I was a kid and have lots of training on proper
cornering techniques. I used to surprise people with my first car - a Hyundai Pony (I said surprise - it doesn't take very much to surprise someone with a Hyundai).
I don't know what it is, but the car seems to reach a limit between 60-70 km/h in those corners (based on the feedback I get from the car) and I am able to get a bit more with ESP off (admittedly I am taking a bit more road, but it "feels" more in control than with the ESP...
I don't know what it is, but the car seems to reach a limit between 60-70 km/h in those corners (based on the feedback I get from the car) and I am able to get a bit more with ESP off (admittedly I am taking a bit more road, but it "feels" more in control than with the ESP...
09-19-2002, 07:31 PM
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I wonder if Im the only person.. I shut ESP off right after turn the car anyone else?
The only time I put it back on, is if Im on the highway and its raining..