Picture of Peter Hommel's wrecked TT.
02-10-2000, 01:17 PM
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Re: (@#$% enter key) Do people often go 120mph+ on back roads with snowtires?
Jenner
Yes, here in Germany, we do drive a lot of the time at 120mph on what you call back roads. We buy the tyres which are appropriate for the conditions. When we live in mixed conditions, we learn more about tyres than you want to dream about.
However, having read the posts to this forum, AOA is probably wasting money, they could ship the car with a 900cc engine and 4 inch wide tyres and still sell every one of them. Ehy do you guys worry about what happens at speeds you claim you never experience? Who is bull ****ting who?
Yes, here in Germany, we do drive a lot of the time at 120mph on what you call back roads. We buy the tyres which are appropriate for the conditions. When we live in mixed conditions, we learn more about tyres than you want to dream about.
However, having read the posts to this forum, AOA is probably wasting money, they could ship the car with a 900cc engine and 4 inch wide tyres and still sell every one of them. Ehy do you guys worry about what happens at speeds you claim you never experience? Who is bull ****ting who?
02-10-2000, 01:24 PM
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Tires not at limit
First of all there are snow tires available now in Europe with a limit of 240 kph
Secondly, if he only had "H" tires (210 kph) and was going at around 200 kph, this means he was way below the limit. H means you can go at 210 kph on a HOT summer day for hours - ususally there is a HUGE safety bolster, and you should be able to drive this at even 220 kph for a short period.
My point is - don't blame the tires!!!!
Secondly, if he only had "H" tires (210 kph) and was going at around 200 kph, this means he was way below the limit. H means you can go at 210 kph on a HOT summer day for hours - ususally there is a HUGE safety bolster, and you should be able to drive this at even 220 kph for a short period.
My point is - don't blame the tires!!!!
02-10-2000, 08:00 PM
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you're forgetting something very important! (more)
The rating on the tire is for the speed at which the tire is safe in regards to heat build-up. Just because a snow tire is rated to not self destruct at 130 MPH does not mean that it has adequate cornering traction, much less the same amount as a summer tire, at 130 MPH in a corner.
Also, keep in mind that nobody is necessarily blaming the tires, but rather looking at them as a curiosity. Any intelligent person will know enough not to blame anything in particular until the facts come in. At this point everything is speculation.
I mean no disrespect, but Mr. Hommel may have had a heart attack, or maybe he bent down to pick something up off the floor, or maybe an animal ran out in front of thim, or....just imagine the possibilities. Maybe there was even another car involved that left the scene (like someone on the wrong side of the road causing him to have to swerve suddenly).
All things being considered, it is totally ignorant to expect a snow tire to handle as well as a summer tire, regardless of speed rating. That is why even though the tires may not be at fault, they could have contributed. A tire can contribute to an accident without blowing!
I still think that overall, the accident rate on the TT is low. This whole thing is being blown way out of proportion, IMO!
Charles
Also, keep in mind that nobody is necessarily blaming the tires, but rather looking at them as a curiosity. Any intelligent person will know enough not to blame anything in particular until the facts come in. At this point everything is speculation.
I mean no disrespect, but Mr. Hommel may have had a heart attack, or maybe he bent down to pick something up off the floor, or maybe an animal ran out in front of thim, or....just imagine the possibilities. Maybe there was even another car involved that left the scene (like someone on the wrong side of the road causing him to have to swerve suddenly).
All things being considered, it is totally ignorant to expect a snow tire to handle as well as a summer tire, regardless of speed rating. That is why even though the tires may not be at fault, they could have contributed. A tire can contribute to an accident without blowing!
I still think that overall, the accident rate on the TT is low. This whole thing is being blown way out of proportion, IMO!
Charles