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Old 04-10-2002, 11:14 AM
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Default Please read.. Not TT related. Explains the Middle East conflict with facts.

> Dear President Bush:
> As Americans and registered voters, my wife and I support your recognition
> of Israel's sovereign right to defend itself against the senseless and
> brutal suicide bombings orchestrated by those who have no regard for the
> value of human life. It is unclear, at best, how anyone can negotiate
> successfully with someone whose moral compass has been lost, such as
> Arafat and his associated terrorist groups. Contracts, agreements and
> shuttle diplomacy mean nothing when one side places no value on human
> life; this is incontrovertible!
> Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and other countries continue to send their young,
> impressionable children to school to learn the teachings of the Quran.
> Upon graduation, these children have no skills with which to earn a
> livelihood. Relying on this "educational" background, the fundamentalist
> clerics then do a great job of creating an emotional frenzy for the
> frustrated masses.
> Notwithstanding his Nobel Peace prize, Chairman Arafat has, by his own
> actions, proven to be untrustworthy and not interested in the peace
> process. The textbooks used in Palestinian schools do not even show that
> the state of Israel exists. Further, a casual perusal of Arab newspapers
> shows that a land-for-peace deal will not terminate the underlying
> conflict. Last fall, the head of the Islamic Jihad in Egypt was quoted as
> saying, "If Israel gave back every square inch of land under its control
> (not just the land controlled since the 1967 war), we would still have a
> problem."
> Unless and until the Arab nations fully embrace democratic principles and
> are willing to enforce aggressively a total cease-fire, it appears that
> the global clash of civilizations will continue. All western democracies,
> including America and Israel, are at risk in this environment. We
> appreciate your continued support of Israel in these difficult times.
> Here are overlooked facts in the current Middle East situation.
> These were compiled by a Christian university professor.
>
> 1. Nationhood and Jerusalem. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two
> thousand years before the rise of Islam.
>
> 2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a
> Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the
> modern State of Israel.
>
> 3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion
> over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the
> land for the past 3,300 years.
>
> 4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no
> more than 22 years.
>
> 5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital.
> Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even
> when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their
> capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.
>
> 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy
> Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.
>
> 7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to
> Jerusalem.
>
> 8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward
> Jerusalem.
>
> 9. Arab and Jewish Refugees:
>
> In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders
> promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever
> seeing an Israeli soldier.
>
> 10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab
> brutality, persecution and pogroms.
>
> 11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be
> around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated
> to be the same.
>
> 12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the
> Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the
> 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group
> in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own
> peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a
> country no larger than the state of New Jersey.
>
> 13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict:
>
> The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the
> Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation.
>
> The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended
> itself each time and won.
>
> 14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of
> Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land &
> autonomy under the Palestinian Authority.
>
> 15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews
> were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim
> and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of
> all faiths.
>
> 16. The U.N. Record on Israel and the Arabs:
>
> Of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were
> directed against Israel.
>
> 17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were
> directed against Israel.
>
> 18. The U.N was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the
> Jordanians.
>
> 19. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the
> ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.
>
> 20. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like
> policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western
> Wall.
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There is two sides to every story.
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Let's make this an ot post please..
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The facts show that the Jewish people were there before there was Islam. Islam is a new religion. I happened to do my senior honors thesis on the subject of Jihad (I witnessed the WTC in person and saw the second tower getting hit). The Koran teaches hate like no other religion does. Maybe someone should consider the facts. Why does everyone want to forget them? It is not a continuum of the truth. They are all hard facts, backed by any source.
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both sides are killing innocents and both sides apply double standards
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ND4SPD - Out of Curiosity - Are you Jewish ?????
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Hey this is an automotive forum...please posts political commentary on the OT forum!
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I am friends with a lot of people from different nationalities. One of my best friends from H.S. was an Iranian Muslim. My family also comes from an Arab country, Morocco. I have a lot of family in the Israeli government, and military. I have visited there, including the West Bank before it was turned over to the Palestinians. I have a really good slideshow showing more about what the Palestinians do which the media doesn't present.
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Default Yes, and no... Weren't some Afghani's innocents, and did we negotiate with Bin Laden?

Palestinians children stand in front of gunmen, so as for the Israeli soldiers to hit them instead of their brethren with the rifles. I have pictures if anyone doubts me. I had to present this because the media doesn't always present the whole story. Israeli soldiers are trained to never ever hit civilians if possible. The Palestinians AIM for civilians. And they claim the Jews stole their land, but the Jews were there FIRST! Not to mention that Jordanians are 80% Palestinian (by bloodline). Yet, they don't take them in. Trust me I have studied the concept of Jihad and Islam thoroughly. One of my colleauges is from Nigeria. Born a Muslim, and converted. The muslims live in the north and go to the military. The Christians live in the south and become educated. Christians are harassed and killed in the muslim north. Muslims are tolerated in the Christian south. You think about it.
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Also, I didn't write the letter, should've clarified, and thanks for marking it OT I didn't know how
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