So what's invovled in a T-Carbon FMIC for a 180 FWD?...>>>
10-24-2006, 06:50 AM
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So what's invovled in a T-Carbon FMIC for a 180 FWD?...>>>
could I just buy a used 225 manifold and buy the FMIC he is currently making, or is the piping a little more involved on the 180? I know that the Forge FMIC kit comes with a 225 manifold, but I don't know the routing differences on the two cars. I would be willing to buy a used 225 manifold for a couple hundred and have it polished and maybe honed and save a few hundred off the Forge version. Comments?
10-24-2006, 06:54 AM
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Requires more than that.
225 has a MAP sensor pancake pipe on the drivers side below the battery for one. Would need to source that, which would then require a different upper silicone hose.
And you'd have to do something different on the passenger side as well since the 225 charge pipe is up top and the old connections going to/coming from the SMIC on that side are in different places.
And you'd have to do something different on the passenger side as well since the 225 charge pipe is up top and the old connections going to/coming from the SMIC on that side are in different places.
10-24-2006, 06:59 AM
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If you wait a little, TCarbon is working on one for the 180's>>
He's trying to get a gauge from the 180 people if they prefer the C-Style(APR) intercooler
If you go the route of changing the manifold I believe you would also have to re-wire/extend the MAP connection
If you go the route of changing the manifold I believe you would also have to re-wire/extend the MAP connection
10-24-2006, 07:43 AM
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like Trent says, some issues >
But the forge IC picks up the 180 turbo outlet on the bottom of the bay, forward at the pancake pipe so that's not a problem given some experimentation with silicone hoses (but admittedly not as clean as a single hose); on the map side, there are some options with integrating the sensor into a hose or a hose connector, but as Trent and I have discussed, an option is to use the 225 map pipe and run from the fmic to it then out to the 180 manifold - same issues with hoses as on the hot side though; and last mnkyTTR's right, you do need to extend the sensor wires/connector, but that's not too big a deal; other items are vacuum plumbing etc. - all doable, but don't underestimate it.
10-24-2006, 07:54 AM
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So what you're saying is that even with your Forge you still have to modify things?
How come Forge didn't R&D thoroughly for end user ease of installation. I don't expect you to answwer that. Maybe that is not a big issue being a lot of mods leave some kind of room for the car owner to "make if fit" since the manufacturer didnt' cover everything from a complete R&D standpoint.
10-24-2006, 07:56 AM
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As stated, wont be that easy...
I'm thinking about whether to go with a C-style core or use the same core as the 225s kit, and connect to the pipe below the car. Initially I didn't want to do the latter due to pressure drop, but I wasn't aware of a pipe that runs from the left to the right of the car under the radiator. Pressure drop shouldn't be a problem with hard piping.
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10-24-2006, 08:11 AM
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They did. These are all std. to the work >
and all the parts come with the kit (including a plug-in connector to extend the map sensor wiring) - if you'll study it, you'll see them all, and that's part of what you pay for. I can PDF you a very bad copy of the install instructions if you have any interest btw.
I got my kit new *complete* for $1150 btw, so you might look around HARD for pricing.
I got my kit new *complete* for $1150 btw, so you might look around HARD for pricing.
10-24-2006, 08:20 AM
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OIC. So you are proposing the following method?...>>>
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