Can't enable cruise control
10-07-2005, 08:16 AM
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Can't enable cruise control
I've just fitted the cruise control switch (4E0 953 521 4PK) to my UK spec 2004 B6 S4 Avant. After a bit of a messing around I've got the switch and replacement steering column shroud fitted.
I'm using a HEX-COM+CAN lead with VAG-COM 504.1 (the lead is OK because I successfully changed the central convenience controller 46 to enable beep on lock).
The Engine controller (01) accepted the 11463 login code OK.
But the steering column controller (16) won't accept any code changes at all - it's stuck at 01012 (3 spoke sports steering wheel, trip computer, Avant). I've tried changing this to 01042 to enable the cruise control, but the code always stays at 01012. I've also tried changing the code to 00012 and 00042 - but it won't change. There's no fault codes stored.
The cruise control symbol doesn't appear on the dash when I try to enable it when going over 40mph, and the cruise control isn't working.
What am I doing wrong? Or maybe not doing?
I'm using a HEX-COM+CAN lead with VAG-COM 504.1 (the lead is OK because I successfully changed the central convenience controller 46 to enable beep on lock).
The Engine controller (01) accepted the 11463 login code OK.
But the steering column controller (16) won't accept any code changes at all - it's stuck at 01012 (3 spoke sports steering wheel, trip computer, Avant). I've tried changing this to 01042 to enable the cruise control, but the code always stays at 01012. I've also tried changing the code to 00012 and 00042 - but it won't change. There's no fault codes stored.
The cruise control symbol doesn't appear on the dash when I try to enable it when going over 40mph, and the cruise control isn't working.
What am I doing wrong? Or maybe not doing?
10-07-2005, 08:30 AM
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Follow up - engine controller reporting fault code
....since I enabled the cruise control via 11463 login it's now logging fault code 18107 - wrong signal from steering column module.
No other fault codes on either engine controller or steering wheel controller.
No other fault codes on either engine controller or steering wheel controller.
10-08-2005, 08:42 AM
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Auto-Scan results - with VIN removed(!) - (long)
Saturday, 08 October 2005, 17:31:18
VAG-COM Version: Release 504.1-D
Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 26 36 37 45 46 55 56 63 76 77
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Controller: 8E0 910 560 R
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0010
Coding: 0011711
Shop #: WSC 63251
1 Fault Found:
18107 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Steering Wheel Electronics
P1699 - 008 - Implausible Signal
Readiness: 0010 1101
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes
Controller: 8E0 614 517 Q
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3033
Coding: 04595
Shop #: WSC 06435
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC
Controller: 8E0 820 043 AD
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1323
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Controller: 8E0 907 279 F
Component: int. Lastmodul RDW 0517
Coding: 01011
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Skipping Address 15-Airbags
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel
Controller: 8E0 953 549 S
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0611
Coding: 01012
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments
Controller: 8E0 920 980 L
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D36
Coding: 01401
Shop #: WSC 00533
WAUZZZ8E54A------ AUZ6Z0C0081111
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation
Controller: 8E0 035 192 C
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H47 0360
Coding: 0309113
Shop #: WSC 00533
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor
Controller: 8E0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0704
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.
Controller: 8E0 959 433 BC
Component: Komfortgerát T3B 1412
Coding: 08175
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Xenon Range
Controller: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D09
Coding: 00060
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio
Controller: 8E0 035 192 C
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H47 0360
Coding: 0309113
Shop #: WSC 00533
No fault code found.
End --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As you can see the engine controller is reporting the cruise control message missing from the steerring wheel controller (this fault code only appearsed after I did the 11463 login to enable the cruise function) - and the steering wheel controller won't code to the correct value (01042) - actually it won't accept ANY code changes. Do I need a login code for the steering wheel controller?
VAG-COM Version: Release 504.1-D
Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 26 36 37 45 46 55 56 63 76 77
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Controller: 8E0 910 560 R
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0010
Coding: 0011711
Shop #: WSC 63251
1 Fault Found:
18107 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from Steering Wheel Electronics
P1699 - 008 - Implausible Signal
Readiness: 0010 1101
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes
Controller: 8E0 614 517 Q
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3033
Coding: 04595
Shop #: WSC 06435
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC
Controller: 8E0 820 043 AD
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1323
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Controller: 8E0 907 279 F
Component: int. Lastmodul RDW 0517
Coding: 01011
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Skipping Address 15-Airbags
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel
Controller: 8E0 953 549 S
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0611
Coding: 01012
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments
Controller: 8E0 920 980 L
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D36
Coding: 01401
Shop #: WSC 00533
WAUZZZ8E54A------ AUZ6Z0C0081111
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation
Controller: 8E0 035 192 C
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H47 0360
Coding: 0309113
Shop #: WSC 00533
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor
Controller: 8E0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0704
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.
Controller: 8E0 959 433 BC
Component: Komfortgerát T3B 1412
Coding: 08175
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Xenon Range
Controller: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D09
Coding: 00060
Shop #: WSC 63251
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio
Controller: 8E0 035 192 C
Component: RNS-E HIGH EU H47 0360
Coding: 0309113
Shop #: WSC 00533
No fault code found.
End --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As you can see the engine controller is reporting the cruise control message missing from the steerring wheel controller (this fault code only appearsed after I did the 11463 login to enable the cruise function) - and the steering wheel controller won't code to the correct value (01042) - actually it won't accept ANY code changes. Do I need a login code for the steering wheel controller?
10-09-2005, 01:31 AM
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OK - that's confirmed what I said in my original posting, now ...
can someone give me some ideas WHY the #16 module won't accept any code other than it's original value 01012 (3 spoke wheel, DIS, Avant)???
I know the coding I want is 01042 (3 spoke wheel, DIS + cruise, Avant).
I've tried 00012, 00042 and 01042 - and after clicking on the "Do It!" button .... the coding is unchanged at 01012.
Would removing the fuse which powers the #16 module be worth trying?
I know the coding I want is 01042 (3 spoke wheel, DIS + cruise, Avant).
I've tried 00012, 00042 and 01042 - and after clicking on the "Do It!" button .... the coding is unchanged at 01012.
Would removing the fuse which powers the #16 module be worth trying?
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10-10-2005, 12:16 AM
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Just done that, and ...
the #16 controller still won't accept ANY coding changes, AND I had to re-zero the ESP steering angle sensor (using the procedure on the Ross Tech website).
I've been thinking (dangerous phrase!)... Are there versions of the #16 controller that have "hard" coding? - mine is an 8E0 953 549 S and reports this text "Lenksáulenmodul 0611".
I've been thinking (dangerous phrase!)... Are there versions of the #16 controller that have "hard" coding? - mine is an 8E0 953 549 S and reports this text "Lenksáulenmodul 0611".
10-20-2005, 02:57 PM
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Re: Can't enable cruise control
Have you tried this as it has happened to mine. The steering module that you put the stalk into....there are 2 main types, one with cruise, one without. They both have the connector that the stalk plugs into however the difference is this, if it does not have cruise there will be no pins in the socket. You will have to get a new 'cruise' enabled module to replace the one in the steering. It should not cost more than 90 pounds from Audi themselves.......hope this helps.
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