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Old 11-06-2006, 03:36 PM
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Default Ongoing problem with the battery dying!

Well I've had the car now for about 9 months now and ever since I had the car I've had a some kind of a battery drain. When I first bought the car I immediately put in the RNS-E and OEM Bluetooth along with the added Phatbox & Sirius tuner.

There was a problem with the RNS harnesses that were being made which had the AMP turn on located in the wrong spot and would cause a battery drain. I've made sure that my harness didn't have this and it was located in the correct pin.

How or what can I do to find the culprit? It's very weird that I can let me car sit untouched for 2 weeks and come back and it will start absolutely fine. But I'll drive it for 2-3 days after that and then let it sit for the night and once again the battery is dead.

This has happen on quite a few occasions since I owned the car. I really can't take it to the dealer for this problem becasue my dealer is a real butthead about modifications and they won't mess with this. I'm not sure about that for sure but I really dislike them even putting air in my tires.

Any help or recommendations with finding an answer?
Old 11-06-2006, 04:27 PM
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Default Here's a complete auto scan of the car.

Granted quite a few of these are a direct result of disconnecting the battery.





VAG-COM Version: Release 607.2-UD

Monday,06,November,2006,20:17:27

Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6/B7
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65 67
69 75 76 77

VIN Number: WAUPL68E55A046480
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Address 01: Engine
Part No SW: 8E0 910 560 G HW: 8E0 907 560
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0010
Coding: 0007711
Shop #: WSC 12593

2 Faults Found:
18613 - Performance Malfunction in Cooling System
P2181 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30: Voltage too Low
P1602 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Part No: 8E0 614 517 Q
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 4533
Coding: 04595
Shop #: WSC 12345

1 Fault Found:
01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
35-00 - -

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Address 08: Auto HVAC
Part No: 8E0 820 043 AC
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 1424
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 63351

1 Fault Found:
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
27-00 - Implausible Signal

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0517
Coding: 01013
Shop #: WSC 63351

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 D HW:
Component: SDAR SIRIUS

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags
Part No: 8E0 959 655 K
Component: Airbag 8.4EP 1001
Coding: 0010607
Shop #: WSC 63351

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel
Part No: 8E0 953 549 R
Component: Lenks?ulenmodul 0501
Coding: 04041
Shop #: WSC 00000

2 Faults Found:
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01301 - Control Module for Voice Recognition (J507)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments
Part No: 8E0 920 981 G
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D42
Coding: 01229
Shop #: WSC 05134
WAUPL68E55A046480 AUZ6Z0D0282238

3 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01311 - Information Data Bus
80-10 - Single-Wire Operation - Intermittent

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr
Part No: 8E0 959 760
Component: Sitzmemory R2 F 0F04
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 63351

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 D HW: 8E0 035 192 D
Component: RNS-E US3 H70 0110
Coding: 0309637
Shop #: WSC 12345

2 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 240
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.08.01
Time: 00:00:30

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.20 V
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 65535
Count: INV 255 255

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2006.11.04
Time: 19:54:22


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Address 46: Central Conv.
Part No: 8E0 959 433 BB
Component: Komfortger?t T7B 1612
Coding: 11880
Shop #: WSC 63351

Part No: 8E1959801
Component: T?rsteuer.FS BRM 0205

Part No: 8E1959802E
Component: T?rsteuer.BF BRM 0205

Part No: 8E0959801A
Component: T?rsteuer.HL BRM 0205

Part No: 8E0959802A
Component: T?rsteuer.HR BRM 0205

1 Fault Found:
00955 - Key 1
35-10 - - - Intermittent

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Address 55: Xenon Range
Part No: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D09
Coding: 00060
Shop #: WSC 63351

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Part No SW: 8E0 035 192 D HW: 8E0 035 192 D
Component: RNS-E US3 H70 0110
Coding: 0309637
Shop #: WSC 12345

2 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 240
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.08.01
Time: 00:00:30

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 12.20 V
Mileage: 655350 km
Count: 65535
Count: INV 255 255

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 237
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2006.11.04
Time: 19:54:22


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Address 77: Telephone
Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 B HW: 8P0 862 335 B
Component: FSE_255x BT H18 0160
Coding: 0011877
Shop #: WSC 40233

3 Faults Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 208

01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 35

01305 - Databus for Infotainment
014 - Defective - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101110
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 151


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Old 11-07-2006, 04:41 AM
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Default The traditional way to find a current drain like that is ...

to disconnect the negative terminal of the battery, and connect a multimeter set to measure current between the battery post and the cable. This will allow you to see how much current the car is pulling from the battery.

Then begin pulling fuses, one at a time, until you see a substantial drop in the current. That way you should be able to identify which circuit is producing the drain and narrow things down quite a bit.

If the battery is going dead overnight, you're looking for a whopping drain, probably in excess of 1A. This should be very straightforward to find using the method above, except that it's obviously intermittent.

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Old 11-07-2006, 04:45 AM
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Default Nothing super obvious there

Except possibly the intermittent data-bus problems. The Telephone module for example, is commanded to powers up or go to sleep via the data-bus; there's no traditional Terminal 15 input (switched +12) input.

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you beat me to it
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Default I removed the glove box and saw that I must have not installed the....

ground wire for the OEM bluetooth module. I had the spade plug connected to a bolt but it wasn't even tightened down at all. I must have just completely forgotten to secure it.

Do you think that the telephone module has not be operating correctly be not letting the RNS-E power down correctly and draining the battery?
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