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Old 02-15-2010, 10:29 AM
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I have scanned my ECM a couple times now and found the result under transmission. It will clear and then come back in a few days. I have also noticed that, especially in the morning, the car "clunks" in a down shift from 2nd to 1st. Below are the results. I have recently put a new ECM in the car, and just changed the timing belt this weekend. Please tell me my tranny is still good.

Monday,15,February,2010,13:01:27:63572
VCDS Version: Release 908.1
Data version: 20091018



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Chassis Type: 8E - Audi A4 B6/B7
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65 67
69 75 76 77

VIN: WAULC68E12A106118 Mileage: 147910km/91907miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06B-909-518-AMB.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 909 518 F HW: 8E0 909 018
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT 0005
Coding: 0016751
Shop #: WSC 08316 444 53670

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 8E0 927 156 P
Component: AG5 01V 1.8l5VT USA 1213
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 08316 444 54662

1 Fault Found:
17095 - Transmission Fluid Temp Sensor (G93): Implausible Signal
P0711 - 003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 1726
Coding: 04277
Shop #: WSC 08316

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
Part No: 8E0 820 043 G
Component: A4 Klimaautomat 0712
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 63351

3 Faults Found:
01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-00 - -

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 907 279 E
Component: int. Lastmodul USA 0305
Coding: 00013
Shop #: WSC 63351

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 655 A
Component: Airbag 8.4E 3000
Coding: 0010607
Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
Part No: 8E0 953 549 L
Component: Lenksáulenmodul 0308
Coding: 01141
Shop #: WSC 63351

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
Part No: 8E0 920 950 H
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D22
Coding: 03200
Shop #: WSC 08316
WAULC68E12A106118 AUZ6Z0A0211902

No fault code found.

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 8E0-951-177.lbl
Part No: 8E0 951 177
Component: Innenraumueberw. 0504
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 8E0-959-433-MAX.lbl
Part No: 8E0 959 433 T
Component: Komfortgerát T5B 0617
Coding: 11788
Shop #: WSC 63351

Part No: 8E1959801B
Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0002

Part No: 8E1959802E
Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 4.22

Part No: 8E0959801A
Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0002

Part No: 8E0959802A
Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0002

1 Fault Found:
01561 - Left Rear Door
59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent

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Address 55: Xenon Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
Part No: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D06
Coding: 00060
Shop #: WSC 63351

1 Fault Found:
01534 - Control Circuit for Left Headlight Range Adjusting Motor (V48)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 8E0 035 195 A
Component: symphony II NP2 0006
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000

2 Faults Found:
00858 - Connection; Radio ZF Output to Antenna Amplifier
36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00878 - Connection to Speaker Front Left
36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

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I doubt that fault code is indicative of a major transmission problem, but you should probably do a reality check on the temperature sensor: Access the transmission, look in Mesuring Block Group 004 and see what it shows in the morning after the car has been sitting all night, as well as watching what it does as the car warms up. Checking the wiring between the sensor and the TCU might also be called for.

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As Uwe said check the wiring between the sensor and the TCM. The temperature sensor is integrated into the internal cable in the 01V transmission and is accessable by removing the pan. I don't know how easy it is to remove the pan.
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Does Audi a4b7 2.0 tfsi tiptronic quattro has this G93 sensor and where is it located?
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The OP's B6 has a type 01V transmission, as documented in the VCDS scan log text, which is a ZF 5HP19 5-speed. What transmission do you have? It seems the B7 moved to the type 09L transmission, which is a ZF 6HP19 6-speed. It would be worth google searching on type 09L, AL420-6Q, and 6HP19A and seeing if any repair manuals or other useful materials. Such as page 83 of the Audi SSP 325 which shows a block diagram for type 09L, and page 21 of Audi SSP 284 that shows what appears to be the G93 thermistor on the type 09E, on which the 09L is based.

If you connect to the 02-auto trans, is there a measuring block value for the G93, and what is it reading? Or do you have a DTC for G93 failure?
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[QUOTE=SMac770;25791040]The OP's B6 has a type 01V transmission, as documented in the VCDS scan log text, which is a ZF 5HP19 5-speed. What transmission do you have? It seems the B7 moved to the type 09L transmission, which is a ZF 6HP19 6-speed. It would be worth google searching on type 09L, AL420-6Q, and 6HP19A and seeing if any repair manuals or other useful materials. Such as page 83 of the Audi SSP 325 which shows a block diagram for type 09L, and page 21 of Audi SSP 284 that shows what appears to be the G93 thermistor on the type 09E, on which the 09L is based.

If you connect to the 02-auto trans, is there a measuring block value for the G93, and what is it reading? Or do you have a DTC for G93 failure?[/QUOTE

Tranny in my car is indeed 6HP19A​​​​​​. Its sifting weird usually. I do not have VCDS but when i did use delphi cars software i did go to transmission and from there i did found data list group 42 gearbox oil temperature. That is showing all the time - 14 °C no matter how long i drive with the car. That made me wonder were this sensor could be located, what it is called and is it really the reason for my faulty transmission
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Google search those Audi SSP and look at the pages I noted. The G93 is just a thermistor wired directly to the J217, which would communicate the value via CAN bus back to the car. It's clearly broken if it's always reporting -14°C. But that you don't have a proper DTC (error code) from the J217 in response to that condition is also troubling.

https://aftermarket.zf.com/remotemed...9a-catalog.pdf
ZF only catalogs complete mechatronics, not pieces for it.

You could hit up maktrans.net and sonnax.com and see if they have anything to offer for that issue.
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Okay. I do not have any DTC:s from transsimission which definetily is weird. Thanks for advice! I still have to ask that so there is something wrong inside the transsimission? I just want to make sure that this temperature reading is not possibly related to the G2 or G62 sensors? which are apparently located in the engine compartment.
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I have no idea. I don't have an 09E transmission, so can't look at any data. You might ask in the B7 A4 forum; probably some people around with VCDS and that trans and can take a look at values from a working vehicle.
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