Anyone experienced w. the Goodyear high perf ice tire?
05-29-2002, 02:05 PM
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Anyone experienced w. the Goodyear high perf ice tire?
I mean the german-made V/Z-rated ice tire(GW). I'm looking for a snow tire that gives nothing up for dry roads (the Dunlop3 isn't available in US).
05-29-2002, 03:51 PM
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A snow tire that gives up nothing on dry roads ...
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is asking the impossible.
Aside from a different tread compound, it's the heavily siped tread that gives these winter tires most of their traction on snow and ice; and the Goodyear GW is heavily siped. These tires just cannot have the tread block stability of an unsiped high performance dry/summer tire. I'm generally very pleased with my Pirelli 210's, but I can definitely feel the tread squirming around at high cornering g's on dry roads.
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is asking the impossible.
Aside from a different tread compound, it's the heavily siped tread that gives these winter tires most of their traction on snow and ice; and the Goodyear GW is heavily siped. These tires just cannot have the tread block stability of an unsiped high performance dry/summer tire. I'm generally very pleased with my Pirelli 210's, but I can definitely feel the tread squirming around at high cornering g's on dry roads.
Sorry,
05-30-2002, 06:09 AM
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Let me ask it another way...
The carcass of a snow tire is typically way too soft for handling, but it allows it to conform to rough surfaces better. The compounding (ice/multitube/etc.) is also way too soft for cornering at summer temps, so that it works well at lower temps.
All understood. What I need is something like the old Pirelli pre-ice winter tires (with the asm rally pattern), but they are no longer made except in an obscure and incompatible size. The tire I am looking for would have a proper performance carcass and sidewall stiffener, with just a decent tread. Even the high perf. Yok tire would work, but it also is unavailable in the 205/55/16 size. The Dunlop 3 snow would work, but it too is unavailable.
The BFG KDW would be perfect, but they are on natl. backorder until fall.
All understood. What I need is something like the old Pirelli pre-ice winter tires (with the asm rally pattern), but they are no longer made except in an obscure and incompatible size. The tire I am looking for would have a proper performance carcass and sidewall stiffener, with just a decent tread. Even the high perf. Yok tire would work, but it also is unavailable in the 205/55/16 size. The Dunlop 3 snow would work, but it too is unavailable.
The BFG KDW would be perfect, but they are on natl. backorder until fall.
05-30-2002, 08:22 AM
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Now I'm confused ...
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The BFG KDW is not even an all-season tire, and it's certainly not a winter/ice tire. If they were available, did plan on using these in snow !!??
Also, be careful when using carcass stiffness as a criteria. A tire can be stiff in three different direction -- vertical, lateral, and longitudinal -- and there's pros & cons to being stiff or soft in each.
The BFG KDW is not even an all-season tire, and it's certainly not a winter/ice tire. If they were available, did plan on using these in snow !!??
Also, be careful when using carcass stiffness as a criteria. A tire can be stiff in three different direction -- vertical, lateral, and longitudinal -- and there's pros & cons to being stiff or soft in each.
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05-30-2002, 09:32 AM
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KDWS available from TR - just mounted a set on A6 and they are a major improvement
over the stock Michelins. I can't tell you about bad weather performance (yet) but I expect the BFG's to exceed the performance of the Michelins - that said, I'm considering a straight snow tire for my stock rims.